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About the loud and screechy bit, I think what we're saying is that is 
how it comes off live. I personally am sort of afraid to actually buy 
the CD for fear that it will be like what I heard at HOM. I wouldn't 
like it if it was. I liked the older ETH stuff (not as much at ET 
stuff, granted, but it was ok). And actually, I really enjoyed ETH 
the FIRST time I saw them....but man it seems to be getting wilder 
and wilder and I don't like it....(and let me make a distinction: I 
like wacko stuff, I love the wildest Eric Gaffney songs from Sebadoh, 
but there is just something lacking in these wild Rick White ETH 
songs...I dunno...can't really put my finger on it.)