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Re: the new hardship post +
- Subject: Re: the new hardship post +
- From: Tara Lee Wittchen <tlwittch\!/acs.ucalgary.ca>
- Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 13:43:46 -0700 (MST)
On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, James R. Covey wrote:
> they are steadfastly refusing to do all
> three of these things. so are they
> brave? arrogant? courageous? misguided?
> brilliant? stupid? out of touch?
> original? rock and roll rebels?
> if they haven't already, they are going
> to alienate droves of former fans.
> on the other hand, they might win a lot
> of new ones.
weren't people saying this back in the springtime when they came out with
_somebody spoke_, their debut album which did not sound like their
previous efforts? :) they are hard to categorize, cause everytime you
think you know them, poof, they are something completely different. i
kinda respect them for that. it kinda makes me laugh.
also, as for the crowd reaction, i would consider waiting til they get a
few shows under their belt before trying to gage it accurately,
especially if the band got on that late on a "school night". it doesn't
matter who is on stage, at 2:30 am you just want to be in bed. :)
as to what they are, well, here's some comments from the boys themselves
from back in july (before alyson, after matt). maybe it will shed a
little light on the situation or confuse things even more. :)
Mike Pick - Our fans have kind of a love hate relationship with us,
actually. It's kind of strange. It's hard to love Hardship Post.
Sebastian Lippa - Some fans love us, other fans want to love us and just
can't, other fans just say...
MP - It's kind of tough love.
SL- There's a lot of reasons why our fans end up hating us. You know, now
that we're just two people and we're like passing ourselves off as
Hardship Post although its just two people, that offends a lot of our fans.
MP - I'm hoping there's a lot of good things about it, too, that people
like, you know, so it's a two sided thing.
SL - We're hoping to bolster the adventurous faction in our fan base. You
know, the fans who welcome changes, and like to see the bands that they
like trying new things, and having fun. If you're into that, we can provide.
Elizabeth Chorney - Well, because I'd definitely say that your sound has
changed somewhat, was that conscious, or is that just how the band has
SL - Yeah, it just kind of happens, naturally.
MP - Yeah, there are things that we want to achieve, so we aim for those
and other things get thrown by the wayside as a result.
EC - So the response from your listening public has been?
SL - Well, for example, last night we were in Saskatoon, and someone
would come up to us and say "You know that SUCKED!! I liked you guys and
you really let me down..." and then ten minutes later some guy would come
up to me and say "That was the best thing I've seen since the Rheostatics
MP - Lofty praise.
EC - But you're just happy doing what you like, so does it affect you
when people say that?
SL - It is kinda sad when some people come and they're disappointed
'cause we don't want to disappoint anybody, and I can understand when
some people come to the show and they were expecting something and what
they were expecting just doesn't materialize in the least. But we're kind
of proving that this is what we're about. And if that bothers you then...
EC - Tough beans?
SL - Well, not tough beans, but you might have to rethink your attitude
towards us, I guess.
TLW (that'd be me) - You just don't want to have anything to do with your
older music, or is it just not a worthwhile venture?
MP - I don't think it's relevant to what we're doing now. It's kinda in
SL - We're not proud of it, you know. It's something that for curious
people it's easy enough to find, but you know, when you put something up
for sale, you make it like you're saying you want people to buy it, and
when you don't want people to buy it, then you shouldn't make it. And
that's how we feel about that stuff. We recorded it like when we were 18
years old or whatever, and it's just not very good.
TLW - In your live shows, too, you're doing totally different
interpretations of the songs on the album. Are you happy with the way
you're doing them? Are you bored with how the album is?
SL - No, the new interpretations were born out of necessity, from the
lack of bass. (*note- mike on drums, seb on guitar at that show)
MP - I don't like lack of bass, I like omission of bass. It's a better
way to say it. I don't think that anything is missing, it's just not there.
(they argue over semantics for a while)
TLW - Why don't you particularly like you old _Mood Ring_ and stuff, do
you still like _hack_?
SL - No.
TLW - And that's pretty well why you don't like to play your old songs?
You're just not proud of it?
SL - Right. It's *not* because we're being jerks.
TLW - Well, that's pretty well the rumour - no that's a joke. Well, I
don't know you guys in real life, but I know some people are saying
`yeah, they think they're so cool, they won't play their old stuff.' But
it's cool if that's why.
SL - It's alright to have that kind of mystique.
so, while they are talking about their old albums in this interview,
perhaps it is reflective of their attitude towards their old stage
presence, too. hard to say without being them. :)
[this all came from Elizabeth's excellent zine called "Hello Kitty's all
star pyjama party" issue number two, which you can order for a small
amount of money. she is at
chorneyc\!/cadvision.com and she's too darn shy to say hi on sloan net,
silly girl. she has stuff on super friendz and cub and sloan and stuff
and it's truly good n' punk in the stick it to the man kinda way.]
> you gotta wonder what sub pop thinks
> about all this. do they have an option
> to drop them if they're not satisfied
> with what they're doing? would they?
> what happens when a band scraps just
> about *everything* they're doing and
> starts from ground zero? are they
> the same, um, product?
james, have you considered a career as an A & R guy? ;) ;)
(just teasing, i love you, you know)
will the subpop women respond to these questions? will the hardship post
respond to these reactions? will donna and david ever get back together?
these are the days of sloan net.*
*thanks james martin.